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today vice president biden will give his list of recommended gun safety laws to president obama. joining us is the president and the ceo for the certain for american progress. thank you so much for joining us. >> it's great to be with you. >> so, mira, we just finished talking about the debt crying and how the president is laying the ground work pursuing a broad argument understanding that at the end of the day he may have to cut a deal in some fashion. i wonder if the same thing isn't actually going on over gun laws, which is to say there is a broad package on the table. you guys have a very aggressive package of sensible gun laws, i might add, and at the end of the day the president said today in the press conference, will we get everything? probably not. i'm paraphrasing. is this effectively just staking out the biggest piece of property you can on the issue of gun control, preparing yourself for what will be probably a very heated battle in the end. >> well, i do think that on a range of issues the president has decided that -- if you look at his press conference, that you kn
today vice president biden will give his list of recommended gun safety laws to president obama. joining us is the president and the ceo for the certain for american progress. thank you so much for joining us. >> it's great to be with you. >> so, mira, we just finished talking about the debt crying and how the president is laying the ground work pursuing a broad argument understanding that at the end of the day he may have to cut a deal in some fashion. i wonder if the same thing...
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>> well, you know, somebody tweeted today, i have forgotten who it was, that president obama talked today as if he just won an election. and guess what? this issue was on the table. and the american people decided no, they don't believe, we don't believe as a people that all government is useless. we expect a lot of things of government. and i actually thought that little segment you showed from frank luntz is very revealing, because republicans for years have thought that saying the word "small government" was the popular way to go. and the fact that frank luntz, their favorite language maven is telling them they shouldn't use small government anymore i think tells us a lot about the shift in public dialogue in the fact that the american people are saying we don't want this way of talking about government anymore. >> ruth conniff, speaker boehner is at the mercy of the extremists in his own party who seem willing to throw the country into chaos. do you believe, or do you think that boehner would put his leadership position at risk to prevent this? i mean, when i say leadership, we're to
>> well, you know, somebody tweeted today, i have forgotten who it was, that president obama talked today as if he just won an election. and guess what? this issue was on the table. and the american people decided no, they don't believe, we don't believe as a people that all government is useless. we expect a lot of things of government. and i actually thought that little segment you showed from frank luntz is very revealing, because republicans for years have thought that saying the word...
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in terms -- we've been talking ad naseum about skisms within the g.o.p. obama is preparing to prioritize immigration reform on his second term agenda, a move that would do as much to divide the gop as it would to score points among hispanic voters. it would threaten for engulf the gop with in a heated internal debate that would make the fiscal argument seem like child's play. do you think that's true? >> yeah. it's a debate that if one side wins could marginalize that party for generations to come because the fact is that when you see that 71% of almost 12 million voters the last elections, voted for one political party, and that group that voted 71% for one political party, is the fastest growing group in the country. already 50.5 million strong. 18 years of age equals voting age. if they think they can ignore the concerns of a large portion of this country or simply use words like am midwesty, i can't even deal with talking about it, then they'll got something coming. they may become the minority party for generations to come, and i'm not sure that any
in terms -- we've been talking ad naseum about skisms within the g.o.p. obama is preparing to prioritize immigration reform on his second term agenda, a move that would do as much to divide the gop as it would to score points among hispanic voters. it would threaten for engulf the gop with in a heated internal debate that would make the fiscal argument seem like child's play. do you think that's true? >> yeah. it's a debate that if one side wins could marginalize that party for...
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. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt creating. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented had i am with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, wung thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. that can her cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, alls
. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt creating. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented had i am with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, wung...
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it's what president obama was talking about when he dedicated the king memorial in 2011. >> progress was hard. progress was purchased through enduring the smack of billy clubs and the blast of fire hoses. nearly 50 years after the march on washington, our work, dr. king's work is not yet complete. >> back in dr. king's day voter suppression was enforced by fire hoses and billy clubs. today it's more subtle. but just as dangerous. rnc chairman reince priebus is arguing to change the rules in their state for how they award in presidential elections. you should this kind of plan. might have won the white house last year, not barack obama. priebus says quote, it's something a lot of states have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at. priebus supports this now
it's what president obama was talking about when he dedicated the king memorial in 2011. >> progress was hard. progress was purchased through enduring the smack of billy clubs and the blast of fire hoses. nearly 50 years after the march on washington, our work, dr. king's work is not yet complete. >> back in dr. king's day voter suppression was enforced by fire hoses and billy clubs. today it's more subtle. but just as dangerous. rnc chairman reince priebus is arguing to change the...
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. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism, and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. zzzquil™ sleep-aid. it's not for colds. it's not for pain. it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking fo
. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was...
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we're talking about whether or not to kick the can down the road. i think mood is that we have come to the end of the road. with that kind of talk from republicans, in the house, will anything get done? >> i think, listen, they have to come up with some kind of agreement. if they don't, in fact, her premonition will come true and parts of the government will shut down. listen. you have an echo of different republican leader that is are out there saying that the theory of a government shutdown would not be such a bad idea and setting this up, trying to desensitize what would otherwise be a pretty calamitous thing for the country and the economy. >> we heard the same thing about the fiscal cliff from progressives on this show saying let's go over the cliff, how bad could it be? >> absolutely. people on the left saying the same thing and what i think is going to happen here is going to come to a short-term agreement and they're going to wait for the president's budget which is due out i think the beginning of february, less than a month and so, listen.
we're talking about whether or not to kick the can down the road. i think mood is that we have come to the end of the road. with that kind of talk from republicans, in the house, will anything get done? >> i think, listen, they have to come up with some kind of agreement. if they don't, in fact, her premonition will come true and parts of the government will shut down. listen. you have an echo of different republican leader that is are out there saying that the theory of a government...
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we'll talk about the obama legacy. he's a two-term president. that's already a big deal, puts you in a pantheon of presidential history. let's go out to the national mall. hundreds of thousands of people will be gathering tomorrow for the swearing in. luke russert is there now. luke -- well, there we go. >> reporter: are we back here? >> there he is. luke russert. i hear you now. >> reporter: how you doing, sir? >> all right. >> reporter: how are things? >> have you seen a ton of tourists out here? >> there's ton of tourists, but thankfully the weather is not that bad. it's nice and sunny here. i'm going to show you what we've got. the capitol behind me. we will have an intense security presence here tomorrow so, if you're going to come use metro, 6,000 national guard troops are expected as well as 6,000 d.c. cops as well as officers from around the country. let's look at the preparations and what they're putting forward so if you do come to the inauguration you won't be in too much pain. over there a whole row of por a port-a-johns, more than l
we'll talk about the obama legacy. he's a two-term president. that's already a big deal, puts you in a pantheon of presidential history. let's go out to the national mall. hundreds of thousands of people will be gathering tomorrow for the swearing in. luke russert is there now. luke -- well, there we go. >> reporter: are we back here? >> there he is. luke russert. i hear you now. >> reporter: how you doing, sir? >> all right. >> reporter: how are things? >>...
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when president obama promises that no one's talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, it matters that gun control activists may, in fact, be talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, whether they know it or not. so let's forgo the arbitrary, ambiguous, fearmongering terms and get real specific about what we actually mean by gun control. it may be politically effective to rail against rapid fire, high capacity, assault weapons. doesn't actually mean anything. so if we're serious, we should at least start by getting the terms right. okay. that does it for "the cycle." martin, it's all yours. >> just a quick question. how many rounds did jared loughner fire off before he was tackled? >> what's your point? >> how many rounds had he fired off? >> i'm not sure. i don't remember. >> 31. >> okay. >> he was actually tackled because he was reloading. >> we should be trying to stop crazy people and criminals, martin, from shooting one person, not ten-plus one person which all is accomplished when you ban high capacity magazines. that's al
when president obama promises that no one's talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, it matters that gun control activists may, in fact, be talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, whether they know it or not. so let's forgo the arbitrary, ambiguous, fearmongering terms and get real specific about what we actually mean by gun control. it may be politically effective to rail against rapid fire, high capacity, assault weapons....
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we're talking about the role joe biden has played and will continue to play in the obama administration. in some ways it's an odd pairing. the vice president was running against barack obama. what do you think we're going to see in this next term? i don't want to get into gaming out of 2016. we're -- >> thank you. >> we can take it a deep breath but i think there's -- it's been notable to me from a political permanent that the first two big initiatives of this year of 2013, the president has had vice president joe biden help. it was the president presumably who directed joe biden to open up a line of negotiations with mitch mcconnell and that was widely reported. when the deal was struck, they was to the benefit in terms of representational capital o'and with the gun task force as well. what does that indicate to you? >> it indicates what we've been talking about. the vice president has 30 years of experience and he has a wide variety of experiences. both in foreign policy and on the crime bill, the '94 crime bill is something he shepherded and his extraordinary ability to deal with sen
we're talking about the role joe biden has played and will continue to play in the obama administration. in some ways it's an odd pairing. the vice president was running against barack obama. what do you think we're going to see in this next term? i don't want to get into gaming out of 2016. we're -- >> thank you. >> we can take it a deep breath but i think there's -- it's been notable to me from a political permanent that the first two big initiatives of this year of 2013, the...
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extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again. >> willie, what's my biggest fault. >> you love a little too much. >> that is it. >> i love a little too much. i shared some of that love last week. anyw anyway, it is a still not too late. they can come to the table and be part of a comprehensive package. i'm sure joe biden will accept them and joe manchin will accept them and conservatives will accept them to come to the table. i'm sure their membership wants them to do it, not the survivalists or gun manufacturers who have made millions of dollars off the death of 6 and 7 year-olds, the truth. it's not too late. if t
extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again....
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because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell harry reid to back off. okay, mr. president? we're not going to show you up. you said it this morning on "meet the press." we need that. give me that, and we'll get a vote on the floor and we'll pass this thing. but instead, there was no relationship. so they talked past each other. it was shortsighted and ended up costing taxpayers a lot of money over the next 10, 20 years. >> mika, those were forced meetings just behind the very top of the leadership ladder. what we're talking about is bringing together the constituent members on a monthly basis so they can have dialogu
because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell...
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that's something we have not talked a lot about, what is michelle obama's role going to be in this -- >> they have decisions to make with this. she's so popular. >> and she's a real asset and so likable. >> the fact that she announced ofa, the 501-c4 suggests he could be taking a more direct policy role. she's not doing policy in the way mrs. clinton did, but i suspect ofa could give her a way to think about how to connect the volunteerism traditional model of a first lady job with a more accurate policy role. >> she'll be a motivator in the base, no doubt. >> she's done so much with joining forces with the military families, and also with dr. jill biden, there's the vice president. >> senator lamar alexander from tennessee. >> on the inaugural committee. >> are we noticing the jfks a pekaspect to the joe biden atti today? he's not a subtle man. >> that's what we like best about joe, though. >> does joe biden have an enemy in washington? i mean, joe biden, talk about his popularity and him potentially running, but of all the years spent in washington, is there an anti-joe biden core i
that's something we have not talked a lot about, what is michelle obama's role going to be in this -- >> they have decisions to make with this. she's so popular. >> and she's a real asset and so likable. >> the fact that she announced ofa, the 501-c4 suggests he could be taking a more direct policy role. she's not doing policy in the way mrs. clinton did, but i suspect ofa could give her a way to think about how to connect the volunteerism traditional model of a first lady job...